In this episode of Big Strong Yes, story expert Lani Diane Rich and researcher Dr. Kelly Jones get cranky about learning to love themselves, or whatever, as they close out the last chapters of Shonda Rhimes’s Year of Yes.

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Big Strong Yes is a Chipperish Media production by Lani Diane Rich and Dr. Kelly Jones, and is released under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-Sharealike license.